Thank you for your reply. Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. Uranus/Mars in synastry can be kinky. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. For teaching purposes, one must break things down, so it may seem like it is contrary but it is really not, imo, Sandy. Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. Your analysis is lovely. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? I write the truth not to placate people but because the truth is the only thing that heals. Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? What would you say about moon conjunct pluto in a composite chart. Unlike Juno/Saturn aspects, Juno in aspect with the South Node does not necessarily indicate that marriage in this life will be a force. This was likely a more romantic or sexual relationship instead of something that sustained itself day to day. Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) Pluto trine Venus, Venus quincunx Pluto And what about Sun and Pluto contacts in synastry? Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. Thank you Ariel! I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. ? That is why it is so powerful. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. Please post the charts. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. Thank you, Lo and Welcome In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. Im pluto and he is the moon. I just never have, not that it is not good. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. Hardly. If you want to ask me a simpler question, I am game! In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! Dejanira trines my Ascendant. Their chemistry is obvious even after all these years but she did recently reveal that some light BDSM play is involved. 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. My main point is reflection. What does that mean? in case his vertex in my moon and ascendant *. Where did you get these theories from? Youll always want to look at the chart as a whole, read everything as a metaphors, and use your intuition. There is also a near-exact conjunction of his north node to my Eros. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. I would need to see more, Jenn! I have moon opposition pluto. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. He was considered irresistible. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. Nessus conj the NN in synastry would make me RUN and fast lol. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. She is raw sexuality which will not be dark if it touches Venus imo and Welcome , what if I have my Lilith conjunct his juno and his venus. Not good, my Friend. under what theme of the forum? It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. Your email address will not be published. Please, keep giving your opinion. My sun and deja are on his nn. How does that play out? thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. It is real to be neutral. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. One person is kind of riding the other one in this. Thank you, Amiann. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. I am not surprised this happened to you. He may abuse her and it would be seen publicly. Hi Ami, Ive been quietly enjoying your site for years now and am finally reaching out as Im intrigued by your work on nessus/deja and recently entered into a relationship with someone (not romantic) who I discovered has nessus and mars conj my nn exact. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? What about my nessus conjunct his descendant? and should I post the picture of the chart (I usually get it from astro.com)? The fear can totally destroy someone over something that they read as if its fact. Hats off to your courage. Hi, Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. I sense Saggi. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. So the theory doesnt check out. Free Horoscopes charts, calculations Birth Natal Chart Online Calculator Ascendant, Rising Sign Calculator Astro Portrait: Sun, Moon, ASC Personal Daily Horoscope Transit Chart Calculator Secondary Progressions Solar Arc, Solar Return, Prognoses Synastry, Composite, Davison Chart Traditional Astrology Calculator Sidereal Astrology Calculator Draconic Astrology Calculator Various astrology . my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. Venus conj Chirondoes love seem to bring pain? If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. I use the term female, but it would be the same for either sex. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? They play out to have a certain pattern to the relationship. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? Lovely and very filled with passion! This is based on experience and charts, as are all my theories. As for MY natal chart I also have mars and Saturn conjunct in Scorpio. . Well you may want to take advantage of their trust and innocence. Thats your opinion. Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. To me, this is always a fundamental place to start. How would it play out if my boyfriends Dejanira is conjunct my venus/juno conjunction but my venus/juno is part of a grand trine with my midheaven and also my moon/Bella/mars/pluto conjunction? The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. I am very genuine towards others and fairness is must priority in all circumstances including my own critic.hate violence and abuse and stand up against it. I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. Moon conjunct pluto Im composite and moon in 12th house composite (our feelings were a secret for a long time as we didnt know how we felt and were not able to be together for a long time). I hope I can do this in my articles. Im trying really, really hard not to jump to conclusions, so any help or advice you could give would be very much appreciated. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? Eros in a synastry chart. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. . I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? Thank you for your words. I read some things. 1. In this case Nessuus is retro in conjunction with the North node. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. This is not a dark aspect, either. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. Do you see what I mean. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. Thats weird. I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! And posting my charf sounds like fun, I just might . M. % would be more ambient but felt imo Maria dear. Because of where my Moon is at 2 56 Scorpio conjunct Pluto at 4 36 Scorpio in the 8th house the men around my age (Im 35);tend to have their Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto In my current relationship my boyfriend has Mars/Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto. His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. I dont even have tattoos or my ears pierced. Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. Thank you so much, Love. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. Everyone should have one once in a lifetime, I suppose. Eros represents what turns us on. Could it be a past life meaning? I have my DEJA conjuncion JUNO in my house 6 He has a strong nessus (conjunct with his sun + true node in cancer ). I admire your wisdom. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. . Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. Thank you again. I agree with Sydney. I get into this discussion a lot with people. You find them sexually attractive. DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. As you know, or can find from my directory, Eros and Psyche are my favorite asteroids. Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! Eros Synastry Aspects: The asteroid, Eros, represents erotic love, sex, passion and intimacy. That is my commitment to my readers. Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. Eros: Synastry Aspects . 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! Think sitting next to a roaring fire. My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). Your words mean a lot to me! My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. The chart shows the TRUTH. Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? The puzzle pieces are coming together for me.. finally. I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. There is precious little practical info out there on asteroids. Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. Thanks you, Jos. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. Also, It doesnt suit me. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. I am sorry. The chart never lies, my Friend. YES, your Deja conj his NN will make you his victim, to put it really directly. I know my life, and what manifests in it. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". There is always a risk with Eros when he falls on a personal planet of point, and meeting Lilith is the greatest of them. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. Their capacity for intimacy and shared desire to melt into the fires of transformation is nothing short of total risk, which each are compelled to take- no questions asked. The conjunction is excact. Is there a positive aspect to this connection? The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. That never ceases to amaze me, either! The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. This transit is positive as well as painful, destructive and revelatory. Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. so, quick question, where do I post it? As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. How will these aspects play out? Dejanira is the victim asteroid. You example above is only if a woman has Dejanira conjunct a mans ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Any feedback on the roles being reversed? There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. My Pluto opposite his Moon. However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. I have Dejanira in Pisces in the 4H. In my opinion, it will play out. Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. I feel like it helps me. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. my sun in exact opposition to his pluto (I have this aspect in the natal chart) and my pluto in conjunction with his sun in an orb of 7 even far he can feel it? what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. YES. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. That is why I dont mince words. Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. Connections between the Vertex and the lunar nodes are also indicators of past life in synastry. . It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. it would be such a fortunate relationship with his Jupiter conjunct my ASC in synastry, and Venus-Jupiter exact composite conjunction right on his natal Sun! To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. That doesnt mean youve never been married. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? 5. Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. Most important to me is that you find Jesus. Oops, sorry Amiann. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. Does this mean anything? I think the Nessus/Deja relationship in synastry is a re-play of childhood abuse. I think you will have the urge to abuse. Amazingly accurate. I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. I'm so cappy Knowflake . Am I right? His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! I just want to let people know that things are not as clean cut and set in astrology as it is written sometimes because things that are presented as the only possible, likely truth will make people will fear astrology and the people around them if they look into isolated aspects from small asteroids and planets alike. Im curious about that conjunction to my crushs NN, though..do you really think it could mean something? They have a very imaginative sex life. You never want to leave your beloveds side until they put you in the grave. No worries. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. crap. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. As far as the form of abuse, one must look at the sign and the quadriplicity( cardinal, fixed or mutable) One must look at the chart to see how the abuse will play out but I think that abuse will occur in your situation with Nessus conjunct Dejanira. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. Which probably held it together for SO long. 4. Moon/Pluto in a trine is very powerful, too. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Thank you, Kay <3 I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. thank you again for being so welcoming, Thank you so much, Sovietlana! If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. To be honest, few people overcome Nessus. I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. Welcome, Britt. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). His makes two major squares to her inner planets. First of all Lilith is for . I could not agree more with this. When someone's planet touches our natal Eros in synastry, it is as if we have been stuck by Cupid's arrow. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. This relationship can be really passionate, fiery, and exciting. The same with nessus conjunct ASC? I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects Partners switch roles? Sorry for the late reply. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. You interpret things based off of your own view. It exposes our weaknesses and provides us a chance to deal with them constructively. They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. lol. Thanks for your posts Ami. Knowing more. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? It is not pretty at all. To make it simple for those of you who are on the same path, Ive rounded up the top 5 placements that indicate a past life marriage. TEA & ROSEMARY LLC. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life. on Dejanira and Nessus. I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? These are too many questions for text. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner.