EVNROLL ER2 Journey - Spy News - MyGolfSpy Forum Plenty of putter brands make a version of this design. I know its industry standard to have 10-20 people in these type of tests. Have been playing golf for about 55 years. Evnroll ER2V or Scotty Cameron Squareback 2 - Putters - GolfWRX Home The Bag Room Putters Evnroll ER2V or Scotty Cameron Squareback 2 APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! It sounds great, doesnt it? MyGolfSpy, Inc. All Rights Reserved. It does also soften the strike which would require some adjustment and where standard face or shallow milled face putters seem to meander on past on a breaking slick downhiller, this putter seems to have a much more consistent distance control capability that stays near the hole. I gamed the ER-6R for several years before replacing it with the ER2. In the store it felt great to use but their putting surface was not great as had a bad roll in the surface which was difficult to see. Have you actually used one of these putters? Although, that may be changing with Dustin Johnson switching to a mallet and winning immediately. When you think about that, its kind of amazing. By the way the Snell golf ball does everything mygolfspy has claimed..and Dean Snell is a class act to boot!! When striking a ball, that is going to counteract the normal straight line deviation of an off-center misshit. Keep up the great research guys!! Sorry to say but this claim is bogus as it defies the laws of physics. Folks think high cost equals better product so they purchase it. Evnroll ER2V or Scotty Cameron Squareback 2 - GolfWRX The EVNROLL is not this nice at impact. Gravity has nothing to do with it as its on a hard surface ??? And i see that a lot with other putters and players. The ball doesnt whiffle ball to the hole . Cons Patented. Practically, this means the brand will feature a single black-and-white color scheme that includes the grip and head cover. Ha! By raskal21, March 26, 2020 in Putters Followers Reply to this topic Start new topic raskal21 Advanced Members 795 Feedback 86 0 0 Total Rating 100% What gives? Im guessing they probably have a patent on it and it cant be copied. Lastly,, perhaps their own zero- torque shaft (Stability)) that is optimized for their head designs. Also, how much does the force of the stroke affect the amount of correction? Since their website is down and they are working hard on getting it back up, here is a link to their Instagram site so you can start getting some ideas of the product and their technology. In that vein, what do you call an established putter design that Rife then improves? Nike Golf to Focus Exclusively on Apparel and Footwear. ER2 feels better and is more pleasing to my eye. The objective is to find opportunities where other brands stopped a design short of what Rife sees as its full potential. This gives the golfer a subtle alignment reference for consistent lie angle positioning. Would probably have been best if they made sure their website was up BEFORE posting this article. Nothing else changed. So happy with the performance. No sweetness to the impact that I look for when dropping over $300. Who can argue with the ball going in the hole. Though this provided a measure of validation, some designs proved to be too similar which is why you dont see them on the market any longer. Actually they are all good EXCEPT I can't stand the sound on the 5. Aesthetics matter. Buying a golf club for resale value is the single worst reason to buy it. putter company. Pardon me? Guerin Rife has been around a long time and the Evnroll putter does exactly what it claims and looks great doing it. Odyssey etc. It is designed with varying depth grooves to promote the same distance putt across the face. I am sure I can sort this out quickly with a bit of practice. It will make a difference. No future? I love the ER2 but, the LAB Mezz is phenomenal! We are currently working to a 5-6 business days build time plus shipping for each putter. Refine and evolve. Thats Rifes mindset as Evnroll seeks to broach the smedium company size category. Putter that Jack Nicklaus used in most majors and victories. Which we did. Odyssey Stroke Lab Putters - 0.096. There is a bit of a cautionary tale when it comes to Rife. These putters are also 100% Milled and made in the USA much higher quality than these new inserts that come out like Taylormade drivers every 6 months. Beautiful. The putters seem to work well, but something about his business models or investors seem a bit off. Definite feel difference.. Companies such as Evnroll, Yeti, Weathertech, and others acquire large finical backing & loans so they can put a marketing plan into practice.. None of this means a product is better. Have a great weekend. Evnroll putters are the only putters with gearing technology, which helps steer the ball back to the target. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. Also why in the world would I be daft enough to walk into a chain megastore and plunk down a huge amount of $$ on something I wasnt even fit for? The traffic from this article to their site has caused some server issues. *We may earn a commission when you buy through links on our site. Or cater to Tour pros with one-off, bespoke design services. Come on man, this is 2017. We believeEvnrollputter technology can do for golfers on the green what titanium did on the tee box. Evnroll ER2, 33" Evnroll ER11v, 33" (just in case) Link to comment . Tried to go to their website, but get an error any idea how to contact them? In golf, there is evolutionary technology and revolutionary. Five years ago, Rife stated, with tongue firmly in cheek, that our goal is modestwe want every foursome in America using Evnroll putters.. The performance was pretty much identical but I took the Scotty. In the end the only thing that really matters is squaring up the face while having the proper aim point and speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQBmo2nemU0&spfreload=10 Glad to see a robot in the test (and mention of robot testing in a couple other articles recently). Fan for life. Just had a streak of 32 holes without a 3-putt with it. Not sure why more people arent rolling these putters, George low wizard Jack Nicklaus used model. Why not? The ball doesnt actually curve back while rolling? Did MGS change their testing results/procedures from previous putter tests. Not yet tested it myself just repeating what others say. The one cool thing about the ER3 is that off-center hits is that it does kind of bring the ball back towards the hole. If I were to tell you that with Evnroll technology, no matter where on the face you hit the ball, it ends up in the same spot. TECH: Odyssey says the new O-Works insert promotes immediate topspin, reducing skid and improving accuracy regardless of your stroke. I read these comments about people hung up on the tester saying it curved the ball. Hopefully they will soon. C $298.29. EVNROLL ER2 - Thoughts? - Putters - GolfWRX They are woody feeling and harsh. Then I remember, Im a nerd. Ok I heard about the New Evn roll putter and stopped in to check it out today, Jamie helped me and was very knowledgeable and helpful regarding putters ended up getting the ER 1 putter. Secondly, some indication of the handicapps of each of the testers would have also been useful. Titleist T300 4-PW, AW Iron Set Regular True Temper AMT Red R300 Golf If Rife is making putters, an Evnroll ER2 will be in the line. The roll is true. Putter Evnroll ER1 / 34 pulgadas | eBay I recently dusted off my Two-Bar as well. Lets check it out. Not true. At least that is how it seems to me. Their phone number is (760) 448-6450, Where will they be available and how much. If this review is real and not some kind of joke, your credibility has taken a hit with me. Just waiting for some more left handed options. Wouldnt it make sense to try this instead of always spending $$$ on Camerons? What forces are in play that are making the ball curve? How often are you all shanking your putter? Evnroll putters are simply too heavy 370gm heads. Its not only the individual putter but the visual message it presents stacked alongside 15 or 20 putters of the same brand. The brushed finish and the subtle aiming dots look great. At least mentioning what speed the greens were for the tests would have been useful. Would you spend $329 on a driver that you use about 8 times a round? Tonico: the founder is the same guy who started RIFE putters, which we represent. Even a deviation of 1/8-1/4 from center is super common. Odyssey Stroke Lab Putters vs Non Stroke Lab Putters And to be honest, the Karsten TR 1955 putters feel better to me than the Vault version. Made buckets on the last 18 including an eagle that I swear curved into the hole. Great putters but have decided to evolve their product line in only right hand. It was more like slapping the ball around. I hit enough putts that my friends frequently ask to try it. http://instagram.com/evnroll. I dont know the actual stats but 3 putts are very common for the average golfer over 20 feet, especially at 25-30 feet. Sometimes technology seems to change literally overnight. It felt like you were hitting wood or a wrench? The comparison graphic shown above is misleading wait, no its just plain wrong. Because the forces involved in putting are so low, and the ball is rolling, not flying through the air, the location of the center of mass of the head of the putter has virtually no effect on the path of the ball. Took at least 9 holes to get used to the distance control. It rolls straight and stays on line. Lucky for you, one does. Liked the grooves a lot but it was just too light. Interesting that the Ketsch still did better at 20 feet. No one screamed we are actually typing. When he's not coaching the local high school team, he's probably on the range or trying to keep up with his wife and seven beautiful daughters. This keeps the ball travelling on the high side of the target line..I can certainly back this up, it really does keep the ball above the break. Evnrollshould make all other designs obsolete. I have been interested in trying out the CR5CS with the Gravity Grip but I never see anyone having one in stock. Rather or not you believe in the technology, Ive never hit a putter better than this thing. BUT! mid. Thank you. Chris is based out of Fort Collins, CO and his neighbors believe long brown boxes are simply part of his porch decor. I thought they were okay overall, but nothing special. I then got the chance to use it for the first time yesterday in a round. What about the Ping variable COR face that was intended to help on mishits? The evolution of Evnroll requires a return to a cohesive, unifying, identity. Im not asserting that Evnroll will overtake Cameron or even nibble off a sizeable portion of the latters market share. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Jack, skepticism is a critical trait in the scientific community. Unreal roll they put on the ball, Too bad a company looking to revolutionize putters doesnt offer lefties. Definitely not bad performance but extremely similar to the Anser TR line from last year (the copper colored putters) Distance control was good. I like it enough that I will put a watch on Ebay for one from someone looking to move on their next bigger/better for a less than retail price sometime in 2017. I hate putters with offset, and that is the only thing they offer, so even if it gets more consistent distance and curves balls towards targets Id never feel comfortable using it, nor aligning it. I tried several other putters before EVNRoll and the ball seemed to come off the face a little better on all others. Also seems to apply to other clubs not as popular too for the retail Gods give their stores what to sell. If the ball is curving on its way to the hole then please explain the physics of why the ball is curving.. Experience the sweetest face in golf with the Evnroll ER2 MidBlade Putter. Now, the spin imparted to the ball by this interaction does have ramifications for the flight of the ball due to aerodynamic effects resulting from that spin, but gear effect is not in itself an aerodynamic phenomenon. As long as the face is square to the swing path at contact the ball will come off the face on a path that is perpendicular to the face. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I still putted much better with the Ketsch mid than anything else Ive tried which brings up how disappointed I am that the Ping Vault Oslo and Bergen are not as good as the Ketsch. Companies make a product, then price it double what similar products cost while saying its special. But Ive been bound to secrecy. what is Gearing how does it work? Overall after just one use I am convinced the evnroll is AMAZING. Its a claim no other putter brand makes. What we realized was that no matter what putter we tested, if it had PING TR grooves it almost always outperformed the putters that didnt. Your article also omits any comments about left handers so maybe they still arent making any progress there? Pasted as rich text. Dont be cheap if it brings you pleasure or better golf scores. Hahahaha even my girlfriend is getting jealous at the affection I show for this thing. For a putter they do a great job of showing dispersion on off-center hits. I spent about 45 minutes at PGASS today and really liked the ER2. Were they all under 5 handicap. Secondly, a few years ago we ran what we felt was and still is the most comprehensive independent head-to-head putter test and analysis done in the golf industry. Sufficed to say that were 100% confident that many of you can absolutely lower your score by doing nothing more than changing putters. Upload or insert images from URL. Most come with little to no evidence that the advancement offered, whatever it happens to be, can actually lower your score. I bought the ER1 as the only one in the shop here in Australia. If they ever come out with a center-shafted non-offset model, and it was a cheaper price I might give them a look. Same but the W/S Bucktown. The truth just sounds different.". Well, that is exactly what our testers saw over and over again in our lab. Having gamed several Rifes in the past, my opinion is that grooves do put a smoother roll on the ball, and Rife himself has an eye for a clean design (even if the shapes are highly derivative/copies). I describe it as the ball holding my intended line instead. Struggle is real. The concept of an overnight success story is misguided at best. I dispute the comments about the hard feel. If the face is shut and you hit the ball in the center of the face, you are going to miss the putt left (assuming you are aiming correctly). Why not save this article for April 1? I removed the grip to put the larger Evnroll grip on it and realized that there was a counter-balance weight in the end of shaft. These look really interesting, but the price point is insane for something you likely cant test out at your local golf store/ pro shop. But again that is MY experience and I started playing in the mid 1970s when putter had thin heads and weighed nothing. It is a sharpshooter from 15-25 feet and performed better than the other two at these distances in particular. What ive found is that on greens with very slick surfaces, over 5 feet, Im much more consistent and putt way better with the odyssey as it slows the ball coming of the face so that even if I miss the longer putt it doesnt go as far. Ill wait a few years when its $99. I bought an ER1 and its the best money I have ever spent. Im confused MGS. Groove pattern is very important. satin black Length/loft/lie adjustments * Is someone on the payroll of Evnroll? THeres a lot of difference in most golfers putting ability between a 15-20 handicap versus a 0-5 handicap. Am I right in seeing that there are no left handed options currently available? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1dXsUmILmE. A plain-face putter (one w/o grooves) doesnt make the ball come off the face at an angle just because the contact point is not at the center of the face, at the so-called sweet spot. Best putter Ive ever owned. Is there a plan to? Hmmmmm I have a Scotty Cameron Studio 1.5 and love it. Well I revisited the ER2 at my PGA Store. When we look at the number of putts per hole, and SG18, Evnroll putters filled the top 5, besting both of 2016s Most Wanted Putters. But if the ER 1 helps knock off a few strokes as they say drive for show putt for dough. Rife has made center shafted putters before, so Im a little surprised they didnt initially release one. Your previous content has been restored. Im still in maybe $130 for a putter Id put up against the big names. I use p770 irons & g400 driver because of this website. That means you will need to adjust your stroke to account for that. The face tech is real and works. The Bettinardi Kuchar 35 model has this sweetness as did the original black cameron Golo from 6 years ago. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Ive had the ER 1 for around 5 plus years, and more than 85 percent of the time its in the bag, I do like the product. And I think most resort courses will tell you that they keep the greens slower because the average golfer cannot putt well on fast surfaces and rounds are much slower because of more 4 putts, or more versus the slower speeds. And I have to say Alex, yes they are. A buzz kill, probablya realist for sure. A putter has to feel good and inspire confidence. Scotty Cameron to me is just a hype and too commercial. Bought the ER6 at our local PGA Superstore last week, took it out straight away and won the member guest at my club! Length-specific head and grip weighting combine to elevate stroke consistency and control. Using the yes putter now its fine. If he truly has improved on those grooves, then this putter will perform. Gravity is from up to down, not sideways. Amazon.com : Evnroll ER2B MidBlade Putter : Sports & Outdoors NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Walter Im not from MGS, just a reader. Free shipping for many products! I prefer a mallet but that seemed inconsistent to me. Plus, I loved their lighter option jumbo grip. Copyright 2023. Essentially, they have engineered a sweet spot hit to react like a mishit as far as distance is concerned. Evnroll ER1TS 4 799 kr. Furthermore, the differences between the different Evnroll putters is significant, despite the same face technology especialy on midrange (10) putts Doesnt matter who makes it or the cost. We (10 yr old son) bought one last month after talking to someone and comparing other putters with a fitter. Evnroll Putters - Putters - MyGolfSpy Forum If the hardness of the face varied outward from the center, or sweet spot, then contact in an area where the face was substantially softer would result in less energy transfer, but the difference in hardness would have to be quite noticeable. Odyssey DFX Seven 1 049 kr 1 499 kr. If people are so skeptical of everything, then might as well not read anything. Sincerely, PGA SS Shenandoah Texas. All of the strikes should end up being the exact same (repeatable) and really show off/disprove Evnflows technology. I can tell you that this putter flat out performs. I had 3 clear miss-hits on the toe of the putter that all went in when normally they pull to the left. To each their own but wow, really? Just got fit for an ER5 and love it! Notable is that the conventional steel-shafted putters performed slightly better at 10 feet. Golfer are a weird bunch people Ive had five putters in the last 37 years. In the meantime, which popular putter design would you like to see Evnroll update? Thank you for the heads up MGS..wow is all I can say. That said I was still sold just by how nicely the ball consistently came off the face and rolled. I keep thinking (as some helpless victim of marketin) that I should upgrade to a bigger name brand. We damage our credibility by telling you what we observed in our testing? Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. My only complaint was the grip (I liked that it was hard rubber for wet days but it was ugly) so I replaced it. If robot testing was the best way to test putters you can trust us that it would be the way we would test. The performance has carried over to the course and practice green. There are, however, rare products that almost the day they are released seem to forever change the path of how golf is played. Evnroll ER2 Putter Review | Golf Equipment: Clubs, Balls, Bags | Golf Envroll ER2 Clearly I though I was headed the Mallet direction but actually the ER2 and the Queen B 8 were my favorite two and they are the more stretched blade style. For you guys wondering HOW it works, check out this page: https://evnroll.com/technology, They still dont explain how the grooves make a mishit ball move back toward the hole, they simply say it will. If architects can restore and enhance a golf course, does Evnroll Guerin-ize or Rife-inate a model? Will agree that his distance control has improved. Copyright 2023. Thats ridiculous. Patented. I would have to believe that number is reduced below 5% or less if you have 100 plus users. Gear effect is an aerodynamic producted effect and not a ground produced effect. If the ball is curving on its way to the hole then please explain the physics of why the ball is curving. I am very happy with it and don't feel like I have to hit it harder. It might be a stretch to think that this will be a end all to finding the perfect putter, but the concept is worth noting. Thats going a bit far. Classic design with evnroll tech would be awesome. (on eBay). Which is the type of putter I play. The ER2 mid-blade putter by Evenroll features Rife's signature groove design with grooves that run across the face in a closely shaped formation. Do you have the courage to pay an apology to MGS and reinstate their credibility they lost with you Just wondering.. Great work MGS Keep up the great work?? You can hang on to it for 10 years and it might be worth more than you paid for it. So for this example they are a great display of how this technology works and why it is so effective. Evnroll ER2 4 999 kr. That made finding the vertical sweet spot a bit of a adjustment. I sold it like an idiot and went to place it with this years ER2 Doesnt have the same feel, no matter what ball I roll. I played it about a year until I discovered the SL7, I love this putter, it has great feel to it (I did add the heavier weights to the bottom). Maybe the lefties should kneel on the first tee ala kapernick for the lack of respect toward the south paws. The right grooves matter. The critical mass on the outside of the face is greater than the critical mass on the inside. With a Strokes Gained differential of 0.019, the gap between Stroke Lab and non-Stroke Lab mallet putters is narrow. Ive read thru all the positive and negative comments but I will have to say that a very similar design on the face of my Heavy putter does in fact improve performance.
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