I am a medievalist, and the'rumour' is pretty common all over Europe, and especially in England, where itgained a lot of strength following the dissolution of the monasteries (andnunneries) by Henry VIII. Do they go straight to purgatory (since they have original sin, that must be atoned for?) Protestant authors loved to imagine the secret sins of Catholics. Girls usually moved when they were 6, though residents of St. Joseph's Orphanage in Burlington, Vermont, did not always have a clear sense of their age birthdays, like siblings and even names, being one of the many human attributes that were stripped from them when . June 4, 2014 article: Inquisitr reported Tuesday about the discovery of nearly 800 bodies found in a septic tank on the property of a former Catholic mother and baby home.. As many as 35,000 unmarried pregnant women may have been sent to one of ten homes such as the home in Tuam. Also, it was stories told from one>: person to another over many years, so if there is an anti-Catholic>: bias behind it -- it is not merely the product of a single>: bone-picking tale-teller but evidence of general ill-feeling toward>: Catholics by non-Catholics, which I suspected. No record exists of the number of women who passed through the home during the time it was open. Yep, Ivar, it is a vital question indeed, what happens with the Catholic babies that doesnt get baptized, when there is no Limbo to put them in? A lot of babies die in hospitals and there are miscarriages and thingslike that. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Their diet was terrible, there was overcrowding and disease, and no doctor to call on. Immurement: Horrifying Stories Of People Being Entombed Alive The order of nuns which dumped the bodies of up to 800 babies and children in a septic tank must be disbanded and its assets seized, a TD insisted yesterday. During the era when the home was in operation, the Catholic Church ran most of Irelands social service programs. nuns buried babies in walls. And, interestingly, makes the original statement about special areasin graveyards at least a 'P'. Keep up the good work and I will make sure to bookmark you for when I have more free time away from the books. From the evidence presented by Catherine Corless and Frannie Hopkins, it would seem that the children was placed into the ground, that coffins were not used to bury them, and that there was no gravestone. The boys discovered some concrete slabs loosely covering a hollow. UL? The "dead babies come back to haunt the place they are buried (orwere killed)" was discussed at length in one of the chapters. Just making a point here; Black and white can never mix, Light and darkness can never mix, and the GOD OF CREATION does not assimilate with the god of this world. They were all old with halitosis and long yellow fingernails.>If memory serves, these Handmaidens of God (nuns) were so horribly>undesirable, no one could possibly have believed a word of the rumors>being circulated by our>Protestant friends in the area.>. As the fundraising appeal began, the story appeared in twolocal newspapers the Tuam Herald and the Connacht Tribune last October. UCD historian Lindsey Earner-Byrne who has researched this area extensively has said that Tuam was not exceptional. June 4, 2014 article: Inquisitr reported Tuesday about the discovery of nearly 800 bodies found "in a septic tank " on the property of a former Catholic "mother and baby home." Known by locals as "The Home," it operated between the years 1925 and 1961. Tuam's Archbishop Michael Neary said Wednesday that the diocese had no part in running the home but urged the Bon Secours Sisters to "act upon their responsibilities in the interests of the common good.". The bones of the children should be extracted and buried in Tuams main graveyard, she said. nuns buried babies in walls Local landmarks featured in book about spooky sites - Unexplained Research The RCC claims it was only a hypothesis and not actual defining article of the faith. The Homewas one of many of its type in Ireland at the time: a social service run by a Catholic religious order which imposed the harsh cultural mores of the time and focused on imposing penance and punishment for what the women had done. He reported it as a sad fact. But [the remains] could go back as far as famine times, which is 160 years, we just don't know yet.". TWO people are dead and up to 25 people have been wounded after three gunmen reportedly fired assault rifles into the crowd outside a concert in Miami. That an' all. Nellie's daughter survived, but many didn't. Unrecognised, unnamed children. Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, I just heard a really creepy story about a small town in the US, This story has been making the rounds since my mother was a child (and she, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:18:36 +0000 (UTC), Robert Warinner, On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:16:05 +1100, Viv <, On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:57:18 GMT, R H Draney <, Phil Gustafson 13 Mar 2001 19:33:52 -0500. As Burke lays trapped in a coffin in the graveyard of the abbey grounds, Irene wanders the halls alone by lantern light. The report concludes that the mortality rate was 'high', with 300 deaths between 1943 and 1946. I wounder how the Pope got rid of Limbo Was is not there in the first place? The Church operated as a quasi social service in the 20th century and the mother and baby homes were run in a similar fashion to the Magdalene Laundries, where single women who became pregnant were sent away. Although many of the nuns may . Katherine Zappone stood in front of a hastily convened news conference in Dublin and confirmed a horrific, longstanding rumor that the bodies of several hundred babies and children had been. The excellent researcher behind the @Limerick1914 Twitter account found contemporaneous reports that the Bon Secours nuns were paid 2,800 per year by the State in 1927 to look after the mothers and children in The Home. As the story gathered attention, the Irish government in 2014 appointed a Mother and Baby Homes commission to investigate other such homes across the country. "It's unusual for someone so young to be buried within the church," Murray said. See:http://www.english.upenn.edu/~traister/hughes.htmlfor "The Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk", and other such drivel onthis theme. Meanwhile, the fundraising efforts are continuing by the committee of local historians. Mr Dodd quoted the Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes report, which ruled out the possibility that the 859 babies, whose burial places are unknown, might be buried in the nuns . I suppose it's quite possible that there were areas incemeteries reserved for illegitimate children, suicides, etc, and thishas mutated over the years. It led to emergency baptism of sick infants in all major Mainline Churches. But they are scared to come out in public, and tell the truth about their claimed to be holy sisters and their holy fathers. It's an old, old ghost story. The only record of the skeletons being seen was in 1975 when the two boys discovered them. Interesting that this was in the news today. Report: Priests, Missionaries Sexually Abuse Nuns http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010320/ts/vatican_abuse_dc_3.html, -- ___________________________________________, Michl Trtmn http://www.troutman.org http://www.zen-data.com. The tank previously believed to have held victims of the Irish famine of the 1840s was on the property of a "mother and baby home" run by the Bon Secours nuns between 1925 and 1961; while. At one time, *unbaptized* children, suicides, and possibly some otherscould not be buried in the consecrated ground of a Catholic cemetary.A stillborn baby couldn't be buried in the churchyard regardless ofwhether his parents were married or not; a child born outside ofwedlock, once baptized, would be counted the same as a legitimatechild for the purposes of burying. So it is with man-made Traditions that wind up nullifying Gods Word because its importance supersedes the authority of scripture. Run by the Bon Secours order of nuns, the Tuam home opened in 1925 and closed in 1961. So what was to stop them from crawling back out and eating theflesh of the living? In 2011, she began to source death certificates for every child who had died at the home, paying four euros (Dh15) to the country registry office for each certificate copy. News of the mass graves at Tuam finally made the newspapers last week Religious community's site had primitive conditions with babies neglected Infection and disease ran unchecked; measles and. AFRICANGLOBE - The bodies of 796 children, between the ages of two days and nine years old, have been found in a disused sewage tank in Tuam, County Galway. He could still be alive or he's in the grave.'. I agree. A committee of local historians began a campaign to raise money for a proper memorial at the site, which led one of them, Catherine Corless to do more research on who exactly was buried there. Phil-- )) (( Phil Gustafson Urban Legends FAQ: http://www.urbanlegends.com C|~~| Java FAQ: http://www.afu.com `--' , >dexx@home.com writes:>>I just heard a really creepy story about a small town in the US>>Midwest from someone who lived there (which is actually HERE): Dead>>babies (murderered?) This rate is significantly higher than Ireland's infant mortality rates at the time. William Joseph Dolan was born on May 21, 1950, to a young single mother called Bridget Dolan. The priest came over and blessed it. HE had distant HIMSELF even before creating man. Children of sin: Quebec and Irish orphans share stories of abuse - CBC The home was one of several throughout strongly Catholic Ireland. "Many of the revelations are deeply disturbing and a shocking reminder of a darker past in Ireland when our children were not cherished as they should have been," Flanagan said. She said she was surprised by the mass grave but not by the numbers, noting that all the mother-and-baby homes shared the common trait of very high infant mortality rates, "significantly higher than the mortality rates for 'legitimate' babies". However it only really began to gain attention when The Irish Mail on Sunday ran it as a front page story on Sunday 25 May, focusing on the mass grave rather than the fundraising appeal. - Cindy Kandolf, certified language mechanic, mamma flodnak flodmail: thefl@ivillage.com flodhome: Brum, Norway flodweb: http://www.flodnak.com/. Most, aged between three weeks and 13 months, are described as 'fragile, pot-bellied and emaciated', 31 are listed as 'poor babies, emaciated and not thriving'. Additionally, the earlier version of this article from 2014 has been corrected to omit probable inaccuracies from an invalid source. -- Charles A. Lieberman | "They do not mislay legitimate sons. A Google search on Maria Monk ornuns+dead+babies will find you as much as you want of the same,including some present day believers, even probably in NZ.I was in Belfast when I heard of it, and even as a teenager I found itbasically implausible. I left the roman Catholic church when I was ten or eleven, but was obliged to go to church till I left home at 17. 800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers via @YahooNews, DC IRISH MUSEUM (@DCIRISHMUSEUM) June 4, 2014. They are the 796 babies and young children aged between two days and nine years whose grave, "filled to the brim with tiny bones and skulls," was found last week in an unmarked site that once. How Ireland Turned 'Fallen Women' Into Slaves - HISTORY